IBIS Macromodel Task Group Meeting date: 24 Apr 2007 Members (asterisk for those attending): * Ambrish Varma, Cadence Design Systems * Arpad Muranyi, Intel Corp. Barry Katz, SiSoft * Bob Ross, Teraspeed Consulting Group * Doug White, Cisco Systems * Essaid Bensoudane, ST Microelectronics * Ganesh Narayanaswamy, ST Micro * Hemant Shah, Cadence Design Systems Ian Dodd, Mentor Graphics * Joe Abler, IBM * John Angulo, Mentor Graphics John Shields, Mentor Graphics Ken Willis, Cadence Design Systems Kumar, Cadence Design Systems Lance Wang, Cadence Design Systems Luis Boluna, Cisco * Michael Mirmak, Intel Corp. * Mike LaBonte, Cisco Systems Mike Steinberger, SiSoft Patrick O'Halloran, Tiburon Design Automation Paul Fernando, NCSU * Radek Biernacki, Agilent (EESof) * Randy Wolff, Micron Technology Richard Ward, Texas Instruments Sanjeev Gupta, Agilent Shangli Wu, Cadence Stephen Scearce, Cisco Systems Syed Huq, Cisco Systems * Todd Westerhoff, SiSoft Vikas Gupta, Xilinx Vuk Borich, Agilent * Walter Katz, SiSoft -------------------------- Call for patent disclosure: No one declared a patent. ----- Opens: Arpad: what will we do for DAC summit? - Todd: we were going to present case settings. - could present BIRD - Mirmak: might be too detailed for a summit - Bob: who will be at DAC? Arpad, Hemant, Barry, Todd, John A, Mike L (maybe) ------------- Review of ARs: - Arpad: Review the new macro library files. TBD - Arpad: Write parameter passing syntax proposal for a possible BIRD TBD - Todd will fix a few typos in the presentation Done, posted. ------------- New Discussion: Ambrish presented draft BIRD status for the EDA vendors - [Algorithm Model] Excutable parameter: - The value shown for OS is "windows" - We may need to be more specific about OS versions and platforms - We will deal with this later - Michael Mirmak asked if all parameters are now user defined - Walter: the marketplace will determine the published parameters - Mike LaBonte: where will they be published? - Todd: these parameters will change fast - Michael Mirmak: this assumes a fixed pool of EDA vendors - Walter: we can send parameters to the IBIS librarian for publishing - Todd: - EDA tools will provide an editor for input parameters - Output parameters that EDA tools need to understand are the problem - Arpad: concerned about EDA vendors developing incompatible features - Michael Mirmak: - Assuming EDA tools will have the canned functions that are needed - Some examples would have averted some of this discussion - Walter: - other pages of the BIRD will explain more - they are finding out from IC vendors what parameters they need - Todd: - ignore_bits is an example of a parameter that surely will be needed - Should have put this in the spec - Clock_ticks is a flag - Probably want to document about 5 fixed parameters - This was discussed last December, but there was less interest then - Radek asked what word sizes will be used? Structures? Arrays? - Walter: some data will be bundled in an ASCII string - Radek said it is difficult to have all fixed parameters We did not get through the entire draft BIRD. Next meeting: 1 May 2007 12:00pm PT